What Kind of Nation: Thomas Jefferson, John Marshall, and the Epic Struggle to Create a United States

What Kind of Nation: Thomas Jefferson, John Marshall, and the Epic Struggle to Create a United States

James F. Simon / Feb 22, 2020
What Kind of Nation Thomas Jefferson John Marshall and the Epic Struggle to Create a United States The bitter and protracted struggle between President Thomas Jefferson and Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall defined the basic constitutional relationship between the executive and judicial bra
  • Title: What Kind of Nation: Thomas Jefferson, John Marshall, and the Epic Struggle to Create a United States
  • Author: James F. Simon
  • ISBN: 9780684848716
  • Page: 474
  • Format: Paperback
  • The bitter and protracted struggle between President Thomas Jefferson and Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall defined the basic constitutional relationship between the executive and judicial branches of government More than one hundred fifty years later, their clashes still reverberate in constitutional debates and political battles.In this dramatic and fully accessThe bitter and protracted struggle between President Thomas Jefferson and Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall defined the basic constitutional relationship between the executive and judicial branches of government More than one hundred fifty years later, their clashes still reverberate in constitutional debates and political battles.In this dramatic and fully accessible account of these titans of the early republic and their fiercely held ideas, James F Simon brings to life the early history of the nation and sheds new light on the highly charged battle to balance the powers of the federal government and the rights of the states A fascinating look at two of the nation s greatest statesmen and shrewdest politicians, What Kind of Nation presents a cogent, unbiased assessment of their lasting impact on American government.
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    About "James F. Simon"

      • James F. Simon

        James F Simon is the Martin Professor of Law and Dean Emeritus at New York Law School He is the author of seven previous books on American history, law, and politics His books have won the American Bar Association s Silver Gavel Award and twice been named New York Times Notable Books He lives with his wife in West Nyack, New York.


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    1. Thomas Jefferson and John Marshall were two of the most important men in our nation s history They both served in the American Revolution, Jefferson famously as the author of the Declaration of Independence and as diplomat, and Marshall as a junior officer in George Washington s army Their careers, however, would intersect when they both reached their pinnacle Thomas Jefferson as President of the United States and John Marshall as the Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court The battles [...]


    2. Summary Simon s book summarizes the struggle between John Marshall and Thomas Jefferson to define the character of American Federal government, focusing particularly on Marshall s role in creating a strong judicial branch A good book for anyone interested in post Revolutionary War American history or in early constitutional law.About the only thing John Marshall and Thomas Jefferson had in common was that both were Virginians Jefferson was enad of all things French while Marshall broke off talks [...]


    3. This is the first book I listened to about Chief Justice John Marshall Honestly, the second one I read, Without Precedent Chief Justice John Marshall and His Times by Joel Richard Paul, was far superior The conflicting visions of Jefferson and Marshall vis a vis the shape of the United States is fascinating and key to understanding our history and our nation Simon does a good job laying out a bit of biography of each, and then focusing on the rulings that highlighted their differences.What I did [...]


    4. The history of the United States has been marked by continual debate about the nature of the country itself Present day debates about the size and role of the federal government are in many ways analogous to the debates between Republicans and Federalists in the late eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries In What Kind of Nation James F Simon explores those debates as they are manifested through the legal decisions of John Marshall s Supreme Court Although Simon s writing is excellent, he fail [...]


    5. What Kind of Nation Thomas Jefferson, John Marshall and the Epic Struggle to Create a United States by James Simon offers a fresh and informed consideration of these two giants of the founding era and how they struggled with each other directly and through a host of partisan supporters to shape both the Judiciary and the Constitution In fact, many of the characters we see in Simon s work are familiar figures but their outright animosity towards one another may not be as familiar I found particul [...]


    6. This book hit my history book sweet spot I am inclined to like most history books with lengthy, but well told, discussions of legal cases This book is essentially just that a sophisticated, yet easy to read, narrative about the cases at the Supreme Court that shaped Constitutional Law regarding the powers of the federal government, the separation of powers among the three branches of government, and the limits of what the states can do viz a viz the federal government, nearly every one of which [...]


    7. Today many people tend to imagine America s forefathers as a monolithic, Republican group who agreed upon the clear meanings of the Constitution This book looks at two main views of what the Constitution might mean and intend It reveals the reasonable and unreasonable disagreement between members of Jefferson s Democratic Republicans Although Jefferson author of the Declaration of Independence and Madison the father of our Constitution often served closely together, they tended to stress differe [...]


    8. Simon s new book is a study of the rivalry between Thomas Jefferson and John Marshall Joseph Ellis, the author of Founding Brothers, writes, No one to the best of my knowledge has chosen to pair Jefferson and Marshall and make the argument between them the focus of book length treatment It is the kind of obvious idea that once you see it carried out so capably by Simon, you wonder why no one thought of it before Ellis contrasts Jefferson s core conviction, that what might be called the spirit of [...]


    9. Judicial review of congressional law is presently taken for granted but this hasn t always been so Before Marbury v Madison, the judicial was seen as the ugly stepchild whom nobody paid attention to while the other two branches of government fought for supremacy John Marshall, arguably the greatest jurist in the history of America, managed to outmaneuver that great populist, Thomas Jefferson and thus ensured that the Supreme Court was destined to play a HUGE part in shaping American history Thes [...]


    10. Although there isn t a lot of new information here, it is a good read The author s affinity for John Marshall is however very clear A bit of hero worship going on here I am afraid Never questioning any decision Marshall made, Simon does a disservice to the reader, in my opinion For example, in his discussion of Marbury v Madison, the author explains the meaning of the decision but never delves into Marshall s justification for it in terms of the constitution.


    11. This book was off the list of recommended summer reading from ND Law school I m probably the only nerd to actually look at the list, let alone read from it A very compelling read, detailing the intellectual battle between Jefferson and Marshall Interested to jump into the implications in the fall


    12. A well written history of the Jefferson Marshall views concerning how the Federal Government should function Just enough history was provided to set the context I learned a lot about Marshall that I never knew before, even though I was familiar with many of his court decisions and views It was also noteworthy that it was all done in some 300 pages.


    13. I had forgotten that I read this book until reminded me A very interesting history of two men with opposing views of the direction this country should go in Their disagreement was deeply felt and the manner of their dispute is something present day politicians should study and learn from.


    14. Pretty good book about some of the most basic fights among the two most influential founding fathers, Jefferson and Marshall I recommend to anyone who wants to see how the courts gained the ability to decide on constitutional issues and why the federal government can override the states.


    15. Chapter 10 significantly slows the momentum of the book Read the first few and last few pages of it and move on If this whole chapter is so important to the story that Simon is telling, then he should have put Aaron Burr s name in the title.


    16. If you think our current political climate is toxic, read this It shows Marshall at his best and Jefferson at his most petulant It also shows Jefferson at his most subtle and insightful political best.


    17. Great details about epic battles between Federalists John Marshall and those in favor of States rights Jefferson Marbury v Madison and what it means to this nation, and how it still is applicable today Amazing book about amazing thinkers.




    18. This book was given to me the summer before I started law school and I was promised that it was all I needed to know about the law Um, not so much, but it did pretty much get me through Con Law.


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